Divided Certificate

asamaha · Post by **asamaha** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:00 am

LC asks for a certificate of Quality and Weight.
Would you accept the presentation of 2 separate certificates, one exclusively for the quality and the other exclusively for the weight, or should we consider them as additional documents not required in the L/C and therefore disregard them.
Thks and Rgds
Antoine

DanielD · Post by **DanielD** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:00 am

Antoine,

Your issue is exactly the opposite
of ISBP 42. But the opposite is not dealt with (maybe in the revision).
So no, I would not accept it.
Regards
Daniel

DonSmith · Post by **DonSmith** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:00 am

I would accept them without question

NigelHolt · Post by **NigelHolt** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:00 am

If a requirement for separate documents can be met by a ‘combined’ document (and I agree ISBP681 para 42 indicates that this is the case) I find it difficult to see how a requirement for a ‘combined’ document cannot be met by separate documents. Therefore, I would feel forced to regard their ‘separateness’ as not being grounds for refusal.

asamaha · Post by **asamaha** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:00 am

Maybe the same reasoning for accepting more than one set of b/l as under ISBP para 105 can be applied for accepting a certificate or even an invoice or an insurance document in separate documents provided they otherwise fulfill the L/C requirements.
Rgds -Antoine

GlennRansier_ · Post by **GlennRansier_** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:00 am

As with the majority of these inquiries it would depend upon the certificates and the exact LC wording. The concern raised by the question are valid in that UCP and ICC opinions dictate that "additional documents" will be "disregarded". If you had two say Quality Certificates in this case that were originally signed and indicated a weight, I would say that there is no need for a weight cert. If however, the weight cert. states only the weight and the quality cert. provides quality details only then the examiner must make a judgment call. If the applicant needed a combined document for a specific reason, say a legal or Customs related reason and they do not receive what is asked for and encounter legitimate problems because of the uncombined documents they have the right to refuse to reimburse. In this case and based only on the question, I do not believe it should be a discrepancy provided that the two documents refer to the goods and/or are connectable in some manner but I do not believe that a blanket statement, it is always acceptable is correct.