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DanielD
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Post by DanielD » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:00 am

When an IB requires in a DC that the transport document be issued to its order or show it as the consignee, is the IB still a neutral party in the DC?
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NigelHolt
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Post by NigelHolt » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:00 am

Don't get where you're coming from Daniel or why it matters as the issuing bank's obligations will be unaffected, i.e. to honour a complying presentation or refuse a non-complying presentation per UCP.
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Post by DanielD » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:00 am

Jeremy,

I was wondering if the IB was involved in the commercial transaction in that case and if article 5 was excluded or not and if so, what would be the consequences if any.

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Post by NigelHolt » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:00 am

Daniel,

I do not see any reason for thinking that Art 5 would be affected by the goods being consigned to the IB. For the purpose of the DC - as opposed to any other - the IB does deal with documents and not with goods.

Regards, Jeremy
KimChristensen
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Post by KimChristensen » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:00 am

Dear Daniel,

Please don’t go there :-)

Best regards
Kim
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Post by DanielD » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:00 am

Jeremy, thank you
Kim, OK

Regards
Daniel
JudithAutié
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Post by JudithAutié » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:00 am

Along the same lines, I have always wondered what exactly were the IB's responsibilities if a cargo under a transport document in the name of the IB were to cause any damage (for example an oil or harmful chemical spillage).
In the one such occurrence I saw, the B/L was endorsed to the order of IB, and not in it's name as such, and I rather think the IB endorsed the B/L quickly to the applicant.
Any jurisprudence on that?
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Judith
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Post by DanielD » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:00 am

Judith,

Maybe "Borealis v Stargas Ltd and Another", The Berge Sisar". Liability limited "to holders of bills of lading who took steps to enforce rights under the contract of carriage".

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Post by JudithAutié » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:00 am

Thanks, I'll look it up.

Judith
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