Article 19 a.iii (a)

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Post by HOANGTHIANHTHU_invalid » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:00 am

Hi all,

Your comments on the following are appreciated:

* LC requires:
- Multimodal BL
- 44E: Port of Loading: Port A
- 44F: Port of Discharge: Port B
- 44B: Place of Final Destination: Place C

* BL presented shows:
- Port of Loading: Port A
- Port of Discharge: Port B
- Place of Final Destination: Place B

BL also contains on its face an additional statement: “Goods in transit to the final destination: Place C. All charges (including freight for transport from Port B to Place C) for the consignee’s account.”

Do you think the BL is complying with UCP 600 Article 19 a.iii (a) and the LC?

Best regards,
N.H. Duc


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Post by MOHAMMEDMUJEEB » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:00 am

Hi,

B/L is comply with article 19,
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Post by DanielD » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:00 am

Aren't there two different places of final destination?
Daniel
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Post by NigelHolt » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:00 am

I cannot pretend I am sure, NHD. If I had to make a decision I think it would be that the BL breaches 14(d).
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Post by HOANGTHIANHTHU_invalid » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:00 am

Hi,

Thanks for your comments.

Not quite sure but I think the described BL does not appear to comply with Article 19 a.iii (a).

What’s more. I wish to draw your attention to the additional statement on the BL: “ … all charges (including freight for transport from Port B to Place C) for the consignee’s account”.

Is the BL acceptable if the applicant buys CFR or CIF Place C , i.e., freight from Port A to Place C is to be prepaid by the shipper/beneficiary ?

Best regards,
N.H. Duc

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Post by NigelHolt » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:00 am

NHD, I cannot see the relevance of the Incoterm quoted in the goods description to the compliance of the transport document presented.
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Post by HOANGTHIANHTHU_invalid » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:00 am

Dear Jeremy,

Sorry for my bad interpretation.

L/C requires a multimodal bill of lading to be marked “FREIGHT PREPAID” covering shipment from Port A to Place C as described in my initial post.

A bill of lading presented shows “FREIGHT PREPAID” but also contains an additional statement “…charges including freight for transport from Port B to Place C for consignee’s account”.

Is the presented bill of lading discrepant as per Article 14 (d)?

Thanks for your patience.

Best regards,
N.H. Duc
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Post by NigelHolt » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:00 am

NHD,

I am unconvinced that one (in the capacity of a banker involved in doc. credit operations) can assume that the ‘freight’, referred to in requirement that the multi-modal transport document (MMTD) be marked ‘freight prepaid’, includes the cost of carriage from the port of discharge to the place of final destination. I therefore incline to the view that the additional statement does not create ‘data conflict’ with the statement ‘freight prepaid’. Also, I certainly do not think that the Incoterm quoted in the goods description is of any relevance to this question.

Regards, Jeremy
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Post by DanielD » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:00 am

Also not relevant but CIF or CFR are not compatible with multimodal transport as we are told these incoterms should be used for port to port shipment only
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Post by AlbertB » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:00 am

Jeremy,

How about LC indicates Term "CPT Place C". Do you have a different answer?

Regards,
Albert
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